Tuesday, February 10, 2009

QUICK! GUESS!


Which one of these two buildings “collapsed due to structural failure caused by fire?”

On the left is the Mandarin Oriental Hotel where a blaze fully involved the entire building, roaring flames consuming all 34 floors of the structure.

On the right is WTC 7 where there were limited fires on 8 floors.

WTC 7 collapsed within it’s own footprint.

The Mandarin is still standing.

In fact of ALL the similar steel-frame structures known to have had fires in them, only 3 have ever collapsed.

All 3 were in New York on September 11, 2001.


I guess the demise of the rule of law in America includes the laws of physics.


343


sj

9 comments:

CoyoteFe said...

Color me curious: What is 343?

Unknown said...

I don't see what 343 is.
I suppose the shock has helped the buildings to collapse. I do not see another explanation.
See you soon

Gayle said...

(Google is my friend)...343 is the number of fire fighters that died... So I think it would be interesting to know who made the steel for those buildings...or who the contractor was...the builders. Could any of that tie into the terrorists? The patient plan for years...

Lori Skoog said...

SJ ...I thought maybe 343 meant three for three.
What is the answer?

Spartacus Jones said...

Thanks for your comments!

343 is indeed the number of firefighters who were killed on Sept 11, 2001.

As a firefighter, myself, and having some familiarity with fire and explosion investigation, I must conclude that the "official story" is false. It simply doesn't fit the evidence.

"Controlled demolition" does fit the evidence.

What we need is an independent investigation of this disaster by someone with the authority and integrity to follow the evidence wherever it may lead, and a special prosecutor to bring to justice ALL persons involved, no matter who they are.

There's no statute of limitations on murder.

sj

LMM said...

There's also no statute of limitations for stupidity, apparently.

Just two nights ago, Christopher Dickey was heard saying that the terrorists did not expect the buildings to totally collapse. The NYPD counterterrorism division is a group of police officers whose sole job it is to see that there is never another 9/11 again. According to Dickey's book "Securing the City: Inside America’s Best Counterterror Force", the NYPD commander asserts that, “there’s a terrorist plot taking shape in New York City every day of the week since 9/11”.

So my question is: when, if & how these terrorists are caught, then what? Like Gayle, I wonder what connections might exist between terrorists and architects, builders, manufacturers of these (and other buildings like Sears Tower, Hancock, Seattle Spire, etc.).

p.s. Interesting "343" significance - I also thought it was 3 for 3 (like Lori).

Spartacus Jones said...

LMM & Lori,

When you do any investigation, you have to be open and let the facts lead the way.
So anything's POSSIBLE.

BUT there's no evidence I know of indicating the buildings or the components were structurally faulty. There was nothing wrong with the steel The buildings didn't come down from "structural failure resulting from fire."

The buildings were specifically engineered to withstand just such airplane crashes.

There is, however, an interesting element re: the owner. He allegedly acquired the buildings only a short time before the crashes, and insured them with a BIG payoff in case of a "terrorist" attack.

Further, the buildings are alleged to have bee full of asbestos which would have cost MILLIONS to strip out and bring up to code. He is also the guy who, on video, said about #7 that they decided to "pull it." Pull it MEANS controlled demolition in that occupational lingo.

So instead of losing a fortune cleaning up those buildings, he MAKES a small fortune from the insurance.

You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to know that we should be taking a VERY hard look at this guy and who HE'S connected to.

Follow the money.

sj

LMM said...

You are so right! Following the money usually shows the motive!
thanks for keeping my mind open SJ!

Katherine Crocker said...

Other interesting things to note about 9/11:

* There isn't any video footage of any plane headed for the Pentagon. With all those security cameras, you'd think they'd've seen something.

* The scraps of steel I-beam found in the wreckage of all the towers generally ended in 45-degree angle cuts. You would not expect this to be the case, because any butt-joint would want to be flat-flat in order to prevent the vertical beams from telescoping. Which they did. Hm.

* The twin towers were "powered down" the weekend before the planes hit in order to do something new but nonexhaustive with the internal wiring. Powering down is expensive, Internet and so forth wiring not generally complicated. Coincidence?

* A number of upcoming SEC indictments had to be postponed or canceled due to the loss of papers contained in the third tower. Several large and powerful corporations escaped litigation. Interesting.

I don't have sources for this stuff anymore (can't locate my list atm), so some of the particulars may be incorrect. Still, I'm pretty sure the generalities are true.